Just a big hairy American winning Machine

"Sweet Trav" (thespunbearing) 04/27/2015 at 11:35 • Filed to: None

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Autocross on Sunday at MIS. First time out, smallest tire in my class (215/60/15) and I was only 3 seconds behind the top car in my class on 275/45/18’s. It’s a barge full of roll, but God was it fun. Now I need that Hotchkiss suspension kit and 255’s all the way around.

Tohru > Sweet Trav 04/27/2015 at 11:53

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This is what you need to do:

Those are 295’s on 10” wide T-Type style wheels.

Sweet Trav > Tohru 04/27/2015 at 12:19

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I’d be VERY concerned about rub with 295’s

I think 255 is as physically big as you can go with stock suspension and steering gear in the front and 275 with a rolled lip in the back

Tohru > Sweet Trav 04/27/2015 at 12:24

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Apparently this guy was running 295’s without a notched frame.

Santiago of Escuderia Boricua > Sweet Trav 04/27/2015 at 12:45

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I’ve been told sticky tires can get you about 2 seconds. That plus more practice and you should be good

Sweet Trav > Santiago of Escuderia Boricua 04/27/2015 at 12:53

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Yeah the ass end was all over the place and I was even losing traction on the straights when I went right foot down, not sure if it was because the rear wasn’t planted after the turn or just to little tire. On my last run I did a full drift around the 180. I was steering with my right foot most of the time.

burglar can't heart click anything > Sweet Trav 04/27/2015 at 13:06

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Hey, glad you had fun! Car looked awesome, had a good look at it. See you at the next one.

Rock Bottom > Sweet Trav 04/27/2015 at 13:19

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I 100% agree with you. I had a 1981 Regal with 10 inch Mickeys and even they would rub occasionally, but that had no panhard bar. I assume the SS has a little better side-to-side control of the rear end beyond the control arms (kinda like a GN), but still...

Sweet Trav > burglar can't heart click anything 04/27/2015 at 14:26

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What were you running?

burglar can't heart click anything > Sweet Trav 04/27/2015 at 14:42

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STR 911 that was a little oversteery.

Sweet Trav > burglar can't heart click anything 04/27/2015 at 14:43

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I’m not sure who had the more epic snap over steer event. You at the first turn at speed, or me going into brake box and almost running down spectators.

Sweet Trav > burglar can't heart click anything 04/27/2015 at 14:49

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I’m also confused as to why I should run CAM-C (an utterly bullshit class in my opinion) when I could run C Prepared... I haven’t done anything to the suspension, just engine, transmission and cooling modifications...

burglar can't heart click anything > Sweet Trav 04/27/2015 at 15:08

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You can run CAM, which is cool because it’s modded V8 cars, or SMS (Street Mod Street tire) which is kind of an “anything goes” for street cars with interiors not specifically built for AX. Things like high boost Subarus play there, but I ran there years ago with a turbo swapped Nissan. If your motor ever came in that bodystyle, you might be able to run ESP too, but I’m not sure.

CP is usually pretty serious race cars on full slicks (not just R-comps):

burglar can't heart click anything > Sweet Trav 04/27/2015 at 15:09

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I was in the timing truck for your, uh, “exciting” finish. That was cool.

Sweet Trav > burglar can't heart click anything 04/27/2015 at 15:22

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that “exciting” finish cost me my best time too. 44 and some small change

even though it was technically a DNF I crossed the timing light before I hit cones. So it’s a win in my book. ;)

DeWayneV8 > Sweet Trav 04/27/2015 at 15:29

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Hey, I was there. Ran your class! Much more fun watching your runs than the endless fiestas.

yamahog > burglar can't heart click anything 04/27/2015 at 15:50

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I think you followed us out on 12 leaving the event, I was in the yellow Camaro :)

Sweet Trav > DeWayneV8 04/27/2015 at 15:51

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Sweet which car was yours?

yamahog > DeWayneV8 04/27/2015 at 15:52

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I was in Corner 2 for the HS and cart heats. I swear some of the FiSTs were coming through on 2 wheels. I can see why non-ST Fiesta hatches are no longer allowed.

burglar can't heart click anything > yamahog 04/27/2015 at 16:25

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Yeah, my Dad drove home, he feels he’s “too old” to AX, but loves to drive my car. Your plate (and car, of course) kicks ass.

DeWayneV8 > Sweet Trav 04/27/2015 at 16:38

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The flat black ‘93 Mustang. I am a terrible driver, I know.

DeWayneV8 > yamahog 04/27/2015 at 16:38

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It’s almost annoying how fast those FiSTs are. They kicked my Mustang’s ass. I’m gonna blame driver skill.

DeWayneV8 > Sweet Trav 04/27/2015 at 16:39

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I had massive traction issues as well. I think the cold day was hard on the torquey RWD cars.

yamahog > burglar can't heart click anything 04/27/2015 at 17:12

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Thanks, pretty sweet ride yourself! And we have a friend whose father is still drag racing at 78, so never too old :)

Sweet Trav > DeWayneV8 04/27/2015 at 18:31

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Yeah, I couldn’t plant the ass end to save my life.

DeWayneV8 > Sweet Trav 04/27/2015 at 18:43

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I will now use this line to respond to everything.

Boss: Why are you late to work?

Me: I couldn’t plant the ass end to save my life.

Sweet Trav > DeWayneV8 04/27/2015 at 18:54

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Glad I could help.

I’m trying to figure out if 16inch S-10 wheels will work on mine and i can run 255/50/16 all the way around.

DeWayneV8 > Sweet Trav 04/27/2015 at 19:15

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I run 245/45/17 on mine, 255s would be nice!

Santiago of Escuderia Boricua > Sweet Trav 04/27/2015 at 20:18

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An alignment could help that

Auto Financer > Sweet Trav 04/28/2015 at 12:54

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We actually were running 285 rs3 tires if that makes you feel better

Auto Financer > DeWayneV8 04/28/2015 at 12:57

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The back right turn was off camber up hills, I had to counter steer every time

Auto Financer > burglar can't heart click anything 04/28/2015 at 12:58

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Isn’t that a beetle

Auto Financer > DeWayneV8 04/28/2015 at 12:59

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Not gonna lie, your car is just amazing, my co driver and I In love with it

DeWayneV8 > Auto Financer 04/28/2015 at 13:55

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Well thanks! I appreciate that, just a decent home built budget hotrod!

Auto Financer > DeWayneV8 04/28/2015 at 15:03

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Can I ask where you got the 3v from?

DeWayneV8 > Auto Financer 04/28/2015 at 15:27

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I got that when I still lived near Chicago from a local salvage yard. It was very similar to the deals you see on ebay, $1500 shipped with a 30 day return policy. Can’t beat that for a 350 hp all aluminum V8!

Auto Financer > DeWayneV8 04/28/2015 at 18:09

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350? What do you have on it

DeWayneV8 > Auto Financer 04/28/2015 at 22:38

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Headers, a different air inlet tube (dictated mostly by packaging), and I tuned it on the dyno. Made 301 hp and 325 lb-ft to the wheels, so it’s making at least 350 hp. 3V’s were really corked up from the factory on the inlet and exhaust. They’ll make 340-350 at the wheels with cams.

crowmolly > Tohru 04/29/2015 at 10:58

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Those tires are outside the wheel wells.

Auto Financer > DeWayneV8 04/29/2015 at 12:15

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We will have to compare at the next autocross

DeWayneV8 > Auto Financer 04/29/2015 at 13:14

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For sure, I used to dyno tune mustangs for a living, so if you ever need some tuning I’ve got the SCT software ready to rock!

Tohru > crowmolly 04/29/2015 at 13:43

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So?

crowmolly > Tohru 04/29/2015 at 13:57

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Can’t tell if serious or not

Tohru > crowmolly 04/29/2015 at 14:20

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I’m in Wisconsin, they don’t do safety inspections. I’ve seen Jeeps and brodozers driving around with a lot more tire sticking out.

Auto Financer > DeWayneV8 04/29/2015 at 15:06

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I have a tuner from bama and they support all that with unlimited tunes and have datalogging, what I need is a lift to put my headers on

crowmolly > Tohru 04/29/2015 at 15:10

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Gotcha.

He’s worried about rubbing, and bashing the lip is way worse than rubbing the inside of the wheel well or on the exhaust.

I’m guessing the trucks and Jeeps are lifted for adequate clearance; his Monte doesn’t have that.

DeWayneV8 > Auto Financer 04/29/2015 at 15:16

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BAMA eh? I know Mike from quite a ways back. SCT was still new back then.

You don’t need a lift. I’ve done it many, many times without one.

Tohru > crowmolly 04/29/2015 at 15:19

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If you pulled a “Jake - Pilot of the Murdersofa” and ran rear air shocks with the pressure all the way up you could probably get away with it in the rear.

295’s up front would be ridiculous.

crowmolly > Tohru 04/29/2015 at 15:22

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Yeah, there’s that. You can air shock it, or go full on ‘70s with extended shackles. You can make it “work” but I don’t think that’s what he wants and is pretty bad long-term.

295s up front would at least be cool to see.

Auto Financer > DeWayneV8 04/29/2015 at 15:22

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My co driver refuses to do it without one, he has the mechanical talent not me

Tohru > crowmolly 04/29/2015 at 15:32

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Mmmm... Air shocks, shackled up with Lakewood traction bars, GM Dura Grip rear axle, 10” deep-dish American Racing Vectors, glasspack exhaust... now you’re talking.

*goes on Craigslist and starts looking up RWD Montes*

DeWayneV8 > Auto Financer 04/29/2015 at 15:33

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You can do it! Get in there!

Dr. Strangegun > Sweet Trav 05/10/2015 at 10:59

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Don’t fear the roll too much, it’s still all about corner weight management and overall grip.

The above car lobbed itself around like a schooner in high seas but still handles very well. I’m not pushing very hard in that video because it was extremely hot and I was eating the tires I’d have to drive home on, but you get to see the ROLL. Also how hard it was sticking ‘cause my seat frame was bending, didn’t realize that until actually just now.